country town

No wlasnie, co to jest country town? Jesli to ma jakies znaczenie, zwrot
ten
wyjety jest z angielskiej ksiazki.

Przede wszystkim taki miasto bedzie mial historycznie glownie gospodarke
zwiazane z rynkiem rolniczym, raczej niz portowa badz ciezkiej przemysli.

Mam jeszcze dwa pytania: co dokladnie znaczy ,,self-colour tie"?

I ostatnie: ,,to have digs".

Ten zwrot wyszedl juz z potocznego jezyka i ma przysmak 60tych lub 70tych
lat.

Z gory bardzo dziekuje,
Monika

| Mam jeszcze dwa pytania: co dokladnie znaczy ,,self-colour tie"?

Brzmi jak krawat farbowany lub do farbowania przez swojego wlasciciela.

| Mam jeszcze dwa pytania: co dokladnie znaczy ,,self-colour tie"?

| Brzmi jak krawat farbowany lub do farbowania przez swojego wlasciciela.
A nie krawat swoistej barwy ?

David
(I'm not an expert in anything and I don't intend to become one....not if I
can help it.)

| | Mam jeszcze dwa pytania: co dokladnie znaczy ,,self-colour tie"?

| Brzmi jak krawat farbowany lub do farbowania przez swojego wlasciciela.
| A nie krawat swoistej barwy ?

mam nadzieje, ze twoja znajomosc angielskiego jest doskonala i zechcesz
mi odpowiedziec, w czym problem .

self-colour tie  < a   krawat o swoistej barwie (kolorze)

w czym cie to razi ?

Bedzie mi milo uslyszec .
Jacek

| | Mam jeszcze dwa pytania: co dokladnie znaczy ,,self-colour tie"?

| Brzmi jak krawat farbowany lub do farbowania przez swojego wlasciciela.
| A nie krawat swoistej barwy ?

I tutaj mam dylemat.
Czy moze to byc krawat farbowany lub do farbowania przez wlasciciela ?

Jezeli krawat farbowany to taki jak kazdy inny, czyli o swoistym kolorze
is ok ?

A jezeli do farbowania przez wlasciciela ?

Nie wydaje mi sie to mo0zliwe z przyczyn technicznych.

Proces farbowania jest albo na goraco (goraca kapiel) albo w farbiarni.

A jakiz to jest sens kupowania krawatu., aby go potem farbowac ?

Jezeli chcemy sami ufarbowac w warunkach domowych to jak wiemy, po
farbowaniu kolory sa trwale, ale w kontakcie z wilgocia spoconej bialej
koszuli, moga wystapic odbarwienia.

A szczegolnie gdy krawat Davida jest jedwabny to mi zona mowi, ze
farbowanie w domu jest prawie niemozliwe.

Czyli doszlismy juz do wniosku, ze nie moze to byc krawat do farbowania
w domu ( z przyczyn technicznych, estetycznych i praktycznych).

A krawat farbowany ?    brrr , a jak sie odbarwi na tej cennej koszuli
za 150 $. tez nie.

krawat o swoistym kolorze.

Ale mi zona podpowiada, ze wielka moda jest na krawaty malowane
artystycznie typu art-tie, recznie malowane przez artystow i sprzedawane
po nawet 139 $.

Ale one tez nie sa self-

Self- colour t-shirts to spotkalem. Kupuje sie dodatkowo zestaw farbek.
Maluje wzor na takiej matrycy, potem naklada, prasuje i mamy wzor na
t-shircie , self-colour t-shirt.
Ale jeszcze nie art-t-shirt.

Zatem bede wdzieczny za pomocne slowo Davida.
Jacek

Well, you're the expert, Expert, so I hardly like to argue.
Nevertheless, if you were not a self-proclaimed expert (ekspert swoistej
proklamacji?) I would have my gravest doubts.

David
(I'm not an expert in anything and I don't intend to become one....not if I
can help it.)

Self- colour t-shirts to spotkalem. Kupuje sie dodatkowo zestaw farbek.
Maluje wzor na takiej matrycy, potem naklada, prasuje i mamy wzor na
t-shircie , self-colour t-shirt.
Ale jeszcze nie art-t-shirt.

Regards, B.L.

| | Mam jeszcze dwa pytania: co dokladnie znaczy ,,self-colour tie"?

| Brzmi jak krawat farbowany lub do farbowania przez swojego
wlasciciela.
| A nie krawat swoistej barwy ?

Pisze raz jeszcze aby sie usprawiedliwic i podziekowac za serdecznosci.
David, jako gentleman,

w pewne sobotnie popoludnie wybiera sie na
przyjecie z .. .

i zona/przyjaciolka/narzeczona mowi, czy zechcialbys zalozyc ten
sliczny, krawat, ktory ci kupilam ci na urodziny ?

I tutaj mam dylemat.
Czy moze to byc krawat farbowany lub do farbowania przez wlasciciela ?

Jezeli krawat farbowany to taki jak kazdy inny, czyli o swoistym kolorze
is ok ?

A jezeli do farbowania przez wlasciciela ?

Nie wydaje mi sie to mo0zliwe z przyczyn technicznych.

Proces farbowania jest albo na goraco (goraca kapiel) albo w farbiarni.

A jakiz to jest sens kupowania krawatu., aby go potem farbowac ?

One thing it certainly isn't is 'swoisty'.

You, had you had the grace to look in the dictionary before launching off on
your anal passages, would have seen that 'swoisty' means something like
'characteristic', 'specific', and perhaps even 'odd' or 'unique' would be
acceptable translations of the word.

The prefix 'self-' in English means what it says. You do it yourself.

A self-made man isn't a man made somehow in a characteristic way.
Self-raising flour isn't flour that rises in a unique manner. Self-abuse
doesn't mean abusing someone in a specific, one-off, mould-breaking style. I
should think you know what it does mean.

Jezeli chcemy sami ufarbowac w warunkach domowych to jak wiemy, po
farbowaniu kolory sa trwale, ale w kontakcie z wilgocia spoconej bialej
koszuli, moga wystapic odbarwienia.

A szczegolnie gdy krawat Davida jest jedwabny

to mi zona mowi, ze
farbowanie w domu jest prawie niemozliwe.

Czyli doszlismy juz do wniosku, ze nie moze to byc krawat do farbowania
w domu ( z przyczyn technicznych, estetycznych i praktycznych).

A krawat farbowany ?    brrr , a jak sie odbarwi na tej cennej koszuli
za 150 $. tez nie.

krawat o swoistym kolorze.

Ale mi zona podpowiada, ze wielka moda jest na krawaty malowane
artystycznie typu art-tie, recznie malowane przez artystow i sprzedawane
po nawet 139 $.

Ale one tez nie sa self-

Self- colour t-shirts to spotkalem. Kupuje sie dodatkowo zestaw farbek.
Maluje wzor na takiej matrycy, potem naklada, prasuje i mamy wzor na
t-shircie , self-colour t-shirt.
Ale jeszcze nie art-t-shirt.

Zatem bede wdzieczny za pomocne slowo Davida.

Jacek
BTW . expert is my second name ;-)

David.

| Self- colour t-shirts to spotkalem. Kupuje sie dodatkowo zestaw farbek.
| Maluje wzor na takiej matrycy, potem naklada, prasuje i mamy wzor na
| t-shircie , self-colour t-shirt.
| Ale jeszcze nie art-t-shirt.

Same with ties. But why don't you guys ask Monika for more info?

Regards, B.L.

| Self- colour t-shirts to spotkalem. Kupuje sie dodatkowo zestaw farbek.
| Maluje wzor na takiej matrycy, potem naklada, prasuje i mamy wzor na
| t-shircie , self-colour t-shirt.
| Ale jeszcze nie art-t-shirt.

| Same with ties. But why don't you guys ask Monika for more info?

Krawatow sie nie farbuje bo to lobuzerstwo, niegodne gentlemana Davida.

You, had you had the grace to look in the dictionary before launching off on
your anal passages, would have seen that 'swoisty' means something like
'characteristic', 'specific', and perhaps even 'odd' or 'unique' would be
acceptable translations of the word.

The prefix 'self-' in English means what it says. You do it yourself.

A self-made man isn't a man made somehow in a characteristic way.

in other way one could call

Self-raising flour isn't flour that rises in a unique manner.

doesn't mean abusing someone in a specific, one-off, mould-breaking style. I
should think you know what it does mean.
ok

| Jezeli chcemy sami ufarbowac w warunkach domowych to jak wiemy, po
| farbowaniu kolory sa trwale, ale w kontakcie z wilgocia spoconej bialej
| koszuli, moga wystapic odbarwienia.

Do you just want to tell us all you know about dyeing?

| A szczegolnie gdy krawat Davida jest jedwabny
Of course it is. Jedwab is better than jebwad.

| to mi zona mowi, ze
| farbowanie w domu jest prawie niemozliwe.

It may be in your house, but how many square meters do you have?

| Czyli doszlismy juz do wniosku, ze nie moze to byc krawat do farbowania
| w domu ( z przyczyn technicznych, estetycznych i praktycznych).

| A krawat farbowany ?    brrr , a jak sie odbarwi na tej cennej koszuli
| za 150 $. tez nie.
You're away with the fairies, aren't you?
don't be silly

| krawat o swoistym kolorze.

Well, I've already explained why that's simply wrong.

Using your thought

processes and dubious logic you might as well have written 'krawat o
blekitnym kolorze'.

| Ale mi zona podpowiada, ze wielka moda jest na krawaty malowane
| artystycznie typu art-tie, recznie malowane przez artystow i sprzedawane
| po nawet 139 $.

You're having a nice time with your wife in all this, I'm glad to see.  I
may not have educated you but at least I've perked up your home life.

| Ale one tez nie sa self-

| Self- colour t-shirts to spotkalem. Kupuje sie dodatkowo zestaw farbek.
| Maluje wzor na takiej matrycy, potem naklada, prasuje i mamy wzor na
| t-shircie , self-colour t-shirt.
| Ale jeszcze nie art-t-shirt.

Whatever.

| Zatem bede wdzieczny za pomocne slowo Davida.

Don't confuse me.
David.

| Jacek
| BTW . expert is my second name ;-)

Do you mean the one the priest gives at First Communion? You must have been
pretty good at that catechism, boy.

David.

czy sa krawaty sprzedawane do farbowania ?      nie
czy sa sprzedawane farbowane krawaty ?          nie

zatem moj chlopcze, you're wrong i dostajesz pale
i do poprawki

| You, had you had the grace to look in the dictionary before launching off
on
| your anal passages, would have seen that 'swoisty' means something like
| 'characteristic', 'specific', and perhaps even 'odd' or 'unique' would be
| acceptable translations of the word.
Yes you're correct my master.
But saying krawat o swoistym kolorze meant just the same as a tie to be
painted by you

| The prefix 'self-' in English means what it says. You do it yourself.
But it makes no sense to paint a tie yourself ( or mayby it makes a
sense to you - i don't know why )

| A self-made man isn't a man made somehow in a characteristic way.
correct in commnon sense but sounds reasonable
a self-made man is somehow  a characteristic man

in other way one could call

| Self-raising flour isn't flour that rises in a unique manner.
no it makes no sens
Self-abuse
| doesn't mean abusing someone in a specific, one-off, mould-breaking
style. I
| should think you know what it does mean.
ok
You admit it, then.

| Jezeli chcemy sami ufarbowac w warunkach domowych to jak wiemy, po
| farbowaniu kolory sa trwale, ale w kontakcie z wilgocia spoconej bialej
| koszuli, moga wystapic odbarwienia.

| Do you just want to tell us all you know about dyeing?
yes, just to want to tell you, that you know nothing about dyeing

| A szczegolnie gdy krawat Davida jest jedwabny
| Of course it is. Jedwab is better than jebwad.

| to mi zona mowi, ze
| farbowanie w domu jest prawie niemozliwe.

| It may be in your house, but how many square meters do you have?

| Czyli doszlismy juz do wniosku, ze nie moze to byc krawat do farbowania
| w domu ( z przyczyn technicznych, estetycznych i praktycznych).

| A krawat farbowany ?    brrr , a jak sie odbarwi na tej cennej koszuli
| za 150 $. tez nie.
| You're away with the fairies, aren't you?
don't be silly
It's your monopoly.

| krawat o swoistym kolorze.

| Well, I've already explained why that's simply wrong.
Bledne jest twoje mniemanie, ze moze byc sprzedawany krawat do
farbowania, bo takiego nie ma.

Using your thought
| processes and dubious logic you might as well have written 'krawat o
| blekitnym kolorze'.
oczywiscie ze twoja logika prowadzi do blednych wnioskow, ale to twoj
problem

| Ale mi zona podpowiada, ze wielka moda jest na krawaty malowane
| artystycznie typu art-tie, recznie malowane przez artystow i sprzedawane
| po nawet 139 $.

| You're having a nice time with your wife in all this, I'm glad to see.  I
| may not have educated you but at least I've perked up your home life.

| Ale one tez nie sa self-

| Self- colour t-shirts to spotkalem. Kupuje sie dodatkowo zestaw farbek.
| Maluje wzor na takiej matrycy, potem naklada, prasuje i mamy wzor na
| t-shircie , self-colour t-shirt.
| Ale jeszcze nie art-t-shirt.

| Whatever.

| Zatem bede wdzieczny za pomocne slowo Davida.

| Don't confuse me.
| David.

| Jacek
| BTW . expert is my second name ;-)

| Do you mean the one the priest gives at First Communion? You must have
been
| pretty good at that catechism, boy.

| David.
oj moj chlopcze, a napisz to jak to z tymi krawatami bywalo

czy sa krawaty sprzedawane do farbowania ? nie
czy sa sprzedawane farbowane krawaty ? nie

And now, when B.L. suggests that we ask Monika for more context, I agree and
ask for more, but you come up with some stupid, offensive, primitive, sexist
shit about ties being a 'meska sprawa'.

Why?

Because you don't want to be proved wrong.

You're already totally embarrassed.

You're writing anonymously, behind some persona, and still you're sitting
there with a big red face nearly wetting yourself with embarrassment,
whereas I am able to write to you in my own name but still have perfect
confidence and right on my side.

And I'm laughing at you, you 'expert'. An ex-spurt is what you are. An 'ex'
is a has-been and a spurt is a drip under pressure.

Hope
This
Helps

David.

zatem moj chlopcze, you're wrong i dostajesz pale
i do poprawki

Just keep taking the pills.

| It may be in your house, but how many square meters do you have?
Yes, I thought you wouldn't answer that one.

| Bledne jest twoje mniemanie, ze moze byc sprzedawany krawat do
| farbowania, bo takiego nie ma.
W twoim sklepie, kmiciu.

You have a problem with me, that's why you launched off on two
adrenaline-fuelled responses to my leetle answer to your seelly question.

Go back and read my originally answer carefully, you culturally challenged
oaf, and you will see that I identified the timing of the piece being
translated as sixties or seventies. At that time people used to dye all
sorts of things themselves. Especially young people, such as students as was
already hinted at in the words Monika gave.

ask for more, but you come up with some stupid, offensive, primitive, sexist
shit about ties being a 'meska sprawa'.

You're already totally embarrassed.
bored only

You're writing anonymously, behind some persona, and still you're sitting
there with a big red face nearly wetting yourself with embarrassment,
whereas I am able to write to you in my own name but still have perfect
confidence and right on my side.

| zatem moj chlopcze, you're wrong i dostajesz pale
| i do poprawki
Aaah, a sexual deviant! That explains everything.

Piszesz o znaczeniu 3 slow, a czyta sie jakby to byl komiks.

| Just keep taking the pills.
czy mozesz sie jako nie gentleman a biznesman skoncentrowac na temacie,
a nie slizgac

| It may be in your house, but how many square meters do you have?
| Yes, I thought you wouldn't answer that one.

Dlugo myslalem, ale powierzchnia domu nie ma nic do farbowania krawatow,
bo tego sie nie robi.

| Bledne jest twoje mniemanie, ze moze byc sprzedawany krawat do
| farbowania, bo takiego nie ma.
| W twoim sklepie, kmiciu.
ok , zgadzam sie, moja wiedza opiera sie tutaj na twoje, ktorej nie
udostepniasz.
Czy w twoim sklepie sprzedaja krawaty do farbowania ?
to by konczylo temat ./

| You have a problem with me, that's why you launched off on two
| adrenaline-fuelled responses to my leetle answer to your seelly question.
no, no , it's your problem.
Mnie jedynie interesuje tlumaczenie
self-color tie (i nic wiecej).

| Go back and read my originally answer carefully, you culturally
challenged
| oaf, and you will see that I identified the timing of the piece being
| translated as sixties or seventies. At that time people used to dye all
| sorts of things themselves. Especially young people, such as students as
was
| already hinted at in the words Monika gave.
Mozliwe.
Ala krawatow sie nie da farbowac, gdyz z kont5akcie ze spocona koszula
dadza odbarwienia, horror.

Czy probowales w latach 60ych tej sztuki ?

I agree and
| ask for more, but you come up with some stupid, offensive, primitive,
sexist
| shit about ties being a 'meska sprawa'.
Rozumiem ze zona ci wiAze krawat. wspolczuje.

| You're already totally embarrassed.
bored only
Get a life, then.
| You're writing anonymously, behind some persona, and still you're sitting
| there with a big red face nearly wetting yourself with embarrassment,
| whereas I am able to write to you in my own name but still have perfect
| confidence and right on my side.
czemu tyle piszesz, jako czlowiek bhiznesu umiesz chyba odpisac w dwoch
zdaniach, nie tworzac monololologow

| zatem moj chlopcze, you're wrong i dostajesz pale
| i do poprawki
| Aaah, a sexual deviant! That explains everything.

masz problemy to sie skonsultuj ze swoim opiekunem i przestan pieprzyc
bo zwymiotuje.

Piszesz o znaczeniu 3 slow, a czyta sie jakby to byl komiks.

Fond regards
David.

The Truth about self colour is now at hand, and neither me, the self
proclaimed non-expert, nor the self-proclaimed expert Jacek Expert got it
right.

The evidence is from web site:
http://www.sunvalley-fashion.com.hk/sunvalley/garment/garment2.html

"SUN VALLEY 1318447 : This set has an unusual self-colour decoration crested
with small curly loops around the edges of the cardigan and short sleeved
jumper. Ideal for any time of the day. 50% acrylic 30% nylon 20% wool.
Length 21 1/2" Black, grey, maroon. Free size. Made in Korea. US$68.50 inc.
p&p (HK$ 530)"

This clearly shows that self-colour can't mean you colour it yourself, as
the set is offered in three colour alternatives.

Neither can it mean that the colour is specific, as there's nothing so
special about black, grey and maroon.

The point, as the picture on the website shows, is that it is all in one
colour. Self colour must therefore be a technical term found in the clothing
industry for garments which are all in one colour. A self colour tie must
therefore be 'krawat jednokolorowy'.

This is the correct answer.

D.

| | The point, as the picture on the website shows, is that it is all in one

Dear Businessman David,
Almost there! After the incredibly stupid conversation which preceeded this
post, I'm glad to see that the answer is almost on the tip of your tongue. A
self-color tie (or a jacket or a hair ribbon or a purse) means that it is the
same color as the rest of the outfit, i.e. Blue jacket with a blue shirt and
blue trousers would call for self-color tie, a blue tie.
Those dudes in the shmata business sure know how to confuse a person, don't
they.
Stay cool now
Magdalena

| Just keep taking the pills.
| czy mozesz sie jako nie gentleman a biznesman skoncentrowac na temacie,
| a nie slizgac
So I've hit on your complex, have I?

| | It may be in your house, but how many square meters do you have?
| Yes, I thought you wouldn't answer that one.

| Dlugo myslalem, ale powierzchnia domu nie ma nic do farbowania krawatow,
| bo tego sie nie robi.
You still haven't answered the question.

Sluchaj, jezeli Ty tak bardzo chcesz farbowac wlasny krawat, to sobie
farbuj, i nie pokaz tutaj wszystkie Twoje kompleksy, dobra?

| shit about ties being a 'meska sprawa'.
Pokazujesz swoje kompleksy.
| | zatem moj chlopcze, you're wrong i dostajesz pale
| | i do poprawki
| Aaah, a sexual deviant! That explains everything.

| masz problemy to sie skonsultuj ze swoim opiekunem i przestan pieprzyc
| bo zwymiotuje.
Go ahead and vomit. Like I say, don't confuse me.
David.

I takie otrzymalem wyniki:

ze jestes Madam
plci zenskiej, feministka, studentka filologii angielskiej

Jezeli sie system pomylik to nie odpisuj .
Pozdrowienia
dla Miss David

| | | The point, as the picture on the website shows, is that it is all in one
colour. Self colour must therefore be a technical term found in the clothing
industry for garments which are all in one colour. A self colour tie must
therefore be 'krawat jednokolorowy'.
This is the correct answer.
D.<<<<<<<

Dear Businessman David,
Almost there! After the incredibly stupid conversation

self-color tie (or a jacket or a hair ribbon or a purse) means that it is the
same color as the rest of the outfit, i.e. Blue jacket with a blue shirt and
blue trousers would call for self-color tie, a blue tie.

czyle the point is, co z ta teoria , gdy krawat jest sprzedawany
oddzielnie
poza tym self a same to chyba niewielka roznica

same-colour tie sounds much better

Those dudes in the shmata business sure know how to confuse a person, don't
they.
Stay cool now
Magdalena

hope to get response from HK this day

The evidence is from web site:
http://www.sunvalley-fashion.com.hk/sunvalley/garment/garment2.html

"SUN VALLEY 1318447 : This set has an unusual self-colour decoration crested
with small curly loops around the edges of the cardigan and short sleeved
jumper. Ideal for any time of the day. 50% acrylic 30% nylon 20% wool.
Length 21 1/2" Black, grey, maroon. Free size. Made in Korea. US$68.50 inc.
p&p (HK$ 530)"

This clearly shows that self-colour can't mean you colour it yourself,

the set is offered in three colour alternatives.

Neither can it mean that the colour is specific, as there's nothing so
special about black, grey and maroon.

O Koreanskich krawatach pisalem ci wczoraj, ale to byly art-tie, czyli o
specyficznych kolorach , wzorach, po recznie malowane .
 Self colour must therefore be a technical term found in the clothing

industry for garments which are all in one colour. A self colour tie must
therefore be 'krawat jednokolorowy'.

Czekam na odpowiedz z Korei
Jacek

| your anal passages,

would have seen that 'swoisty' means something like

| 'characteristic', 'specific', and perhaps even 'odd' or 'unique' would be
| acceptable translations of the word.

czyli jest ok,

| same-colour tie sounds much better <<<

Kto wie, co to merkin? Ale bez zagladania do slownikow, prosze.
Magdalena

Kto wie, co to merkin? Ale bez zagladania do slownikow, prosze.
Magdalena

                                -- Marek
                                not native but naturalized Merkin

Pisze teraz do nich zapytanie w sprawie self-colour tie,
czy specific/special colour tie is correct ;-)
...
Chocbym mial oleciec do Korei i przekonac prezesa tej firmy, aby
odpowiedzial ze self-colour meant exactly special/specific colour tie

O Koreanskich krawatach pisalem ci wczoraj, ale to byly art-tie, czyli o
specyficznych kolorach , wzorach, po recznie malowane .
Self colour must therefore be a technical term found in the clothing
...
Czekam na odpowiedz z Korei
Jacek

                                -- Marek

| | same-colour tie sounds much better <<<

Matching tie sounds better, as in " He was wearing a blue suit and a matching
tie."
Or "She was wearing a blond wig and a matching merkin."

Kto wie, co to merkin? Ale bez zagladania do slownikow, prosze.
Magdalena

| Pisze teraz do nich zapytanie w sprawie self-colour tie,
| czy specific/special colour tie is correct ;-)
...
| Chocbym mial oleciec do Korei i przekonac prezesa tej firmy, aby
| odpowiedzial ze self-colour meant exactly special/specific colour tie

| O Koreanskich krawatach pisalem ci wczoraj, ale to byly art-tie, czyli o
| specyficznych kolorach , wzorach, po recznie malowane .
| Self colour must therefore be a technical term found in the clothing
...
| Czekam na odpowiedz z Korei
| Jacek

Sluchaj Jacku; w Korei nie mowia po angielsku a raczej w jezyku posrednio
pomiedzy koreanskim a angielskim.  Podobna sprawa z Chinami, Japonia i
Macao no i oczywiscie Hong Kongiem.  Wystarczy przeczytac zasady obslugi
tego czy tamtego Made in Taiwan.

                                -- Marek

Czy krawat do farbowania ( ustalilem ze nie i jest zgoda).

Czy krawat w kolorze garnituru ?

Kolejny nonsens, krawat sie kupuje do garnituru, ale matching nie
oznacza the same colour ( liczy sie wzor, kolor, tkanina, ksztalt i 100
innych parametrow).
Jacek

| So I've hit on your complex, have I?
yes, my complex mind.

| | It may be in your house, but how many square meters do you have?
| Yes, I thought you wouldn't answer that one.

| Dlugo myslalem, ale powierzchnia domu nie ma nic do farbowania krawatow,
| bo tego sie nie robi.
| You still haven't answered the question.
Rozumiem, ze twoj biznes, to handel mieszkaniami, czym wieksze tym
lepsze, a wlasciciele mieszkan umieraja ze smiechu po dyskusji na
liscie.

| Sluchaj, jezeli Ty tak bardzo chcesz farbowac wlasny krawat, to sobie
| farbuj, i nie pokaz tutaj wszystkie Twoje kompleksy, dobra?
No  w l a s n i e  nie chce farbowac swoich 100 krawatow, bo sie tego

nie robi, to jest w zlym guscie .

| shit about ties being a 'meska sprawa'.

| Pokazujesz swoje kompleksy.
| | zatem moj chlopcze, you're wrong i dostajesz pale
| | i do poprawki
| Aaah, a sexual deviant! That explains everything.

| masz problemy to sie skonsultuj ze swoim opiekunem i przestan pieprzyc
| bo zwymiotuje.
| Go ahead and vomit. Like I say, don't confuse me.
| David.

David.
Wyslalem twoj post  do takiego systemu psychologicznego w Priceton,
badajacego plec na podstawie korespondencji.

I takie otrzymalem wyniki:

ze jestes Madam
plci zenskiej, feministka, studentka filologii angielskiej

Jezeli sie system pomylik to nie odpisuj .
Pozdrowienia
dla Miss David

Ladies, take note.

Again and again this misogynist keeps on attacking women.

He doesn't even realise he's doing it.

What's the matter Jacek? You can tell David.

David, like I care.

Wiesz David,
jak czytam ten twoj ponizszy post, to widze, ze chamstwa ci nie brakuje

i braku zasad

For me, you've got no principles, so don't take the moral high ground with
me, you snivelling, tie-sucking half-wit.

, zatem zwanie cie gentlemenem bylo oczywiscie duzym

naduzyciem.

| your anal passages,

would have seen that 'swoisty' means something like
| 'characteristic', 'specific', and perhaps even 'odd' or 'unique' would
be
| acceptable translations of the word.

swoisty kolor = unique/specific/characteristic  colour

czyli jest ok,

D.

| | | The point, as the picture on the website shows, is that it is all in
one
colour. Self colour must therefore be a technical term found in the
clothing
industry for garments which are all in one colour. A self colour tie must
therefore be 'krawat jednokolorowy'.
This is the correct answer.
D.<<<<<<<

Dear Businessman David,

Almost there! After the incredibly stupid conversation which preceeded this
post,

 I'm glad to see that the answer is almost on the tip of your tongue. A

self-color tie (or a jacket or a hair ribbon or a purse) means that it is
the
same color as the rest of the outfit, i.e. Blue jacket with a blue shirt
and
blue trousers would call for self-color tie, a blue tie.

Those dudes in the shmata business sure know how to confuse a person, don't
they.

Stay cool now

Magdalena

| Pisze teraz do nich zapytanie w sprawie self-colour tie,
| czy specific/special colour tie is correct ;-)
| ...
| Chocbym mial oleciec do Korei i przekonac prezesa tej firmy, aby
| odpowiedzial ze self-colour meant exactly special/specific colour tie

| O Koreanskich krawatach pisalem ci wczoraj, ale to byly art-tie, czyli o
| specyficznych kolorach , wzorach, po recznie malowane .
| Self colour must therefore be a technical term found in the clothing
| ...
| Czekam na odpowiedz z Korei
| Jacek

| Sluchaj Jacku; w Korei nie mowia po angielsku a raczej w jezyku posrednio
| pomiedzy koreanskim a angielskim.  Podobna sprawa z Chinami, Japonia i
| Macao no i oczywiscie Hong Kongiem.  Wystarczy przeczytac zasady obslugi
| tego czy tamtego Made in Taiwan.

|                                 -- Marek
I bardzo dobrze.
Gdyz mowimy o o sformulowaniu, ktore jest uzywane w HK i Korei
i z powodow, przytoczonych prez Ciebie powyzej, musimy sie ich zapytac,
co rozumieja pod tymi nazwami handlowymi.
Mam nadzieje ze objasnia to dodstatecznie jasno, ze pozwoli to nam
przyjac, co taka handlowa definicja
self-colour tie , oznacza w praktyce.

Czy krawat do farbowania ( ustalilem ze nie i jest zgoda).

Czy krawat w kolorze garnituru ?

Kolejny nonsens, krawat sie kupuje do garnituru, ale matching nie
oznacza the same colour ( liczy sie wzor, kolor, tkanina, ksztalt i 100
innych parametrow).
Jacek

| | your anal passages,

| yes, my complex mind.
That's complexed, Jacek. Complexed.

First you tell me you have a house and now it turns out it's an apartment.

Maybe on closer examination it'll turn out to be a student room or a shed in
someone's garden.

| ze jestes Madam
| plci zenskiej, feministka, studentka filologii angielskiej

| Jezeli sie system pomylik to nie odpisuj .
| Pozdrowienia
| dla Miss David
Again and again this misogynist keeps on attacking women.

He doesn't even realise he's doing it.

What's the matter Jacek? You can tell David.

David, like I care.

I ja tu sie dziwie, czemu David zna sie na farbowaniu, a nie zna sie na
krawatach .

Wy kobiety jestescie takie romantyczne ;-)

| Dear Businessman David,
Sounds like a pretty Polish (or German) way of addressing someone.
pretty official

| Almost there! After the incredibly stupid conversation which preceeded this
| post,

What can I do? A chain is as strong as its weakest link.

| | your anal passages,
n.c.

I have to really spell things out for you, don't I.

D.

| yes, my complex mind.
| That's complexed, Jacek. Complexed.
no,complex means developed not complexed.

| First you tell me you have a house and now it turns out it's an
apartment.
Jak dlugo siedzisz w real estate business ?

| Maybe on closer examination it'll turn out to be a student room or a shed
in
| someone's garden.
Wiem, a tego nie kupisz i marny ze mnie klient ;-(

| ze jestes Madam
| plci zenskiej, feministka, studentka filologii angielskiej

| Jezeli sie system pomylik to nie odpisuj .
| Pozdrowienia
| dla Miss David

| Again and again this misogynist keeps on attacking women.

| He doesn't even realise he's doing it.
Of course, you're wrong. Only w woman, can say so ;-)

| What's the matter Jacek? You can tell David.

| David, like I care.
;-)

Odpowiedziales, czyli system sie nie pomylil.

My twin brother will have to carry on from here.
His name's David too.

";-)", indeed.

| | | your anal passages,
| n.c.
No comprendo?
I mean anal in the Freudian sense and passeages in the literary sense.

I have to really spell things out for you, don't I.

D.

You're just using that cheap playground stunt to get the last word.

Okay, you can have it, little man, if it means so much to you.
ok, madam
From now on I'm stopping talking to you in disgust.

My twin brother will have to carry on from here.
His name's David too.

having twin brothers called David is a common practice in some regions
of the world.

| | Ja wiem.  To stary dowcip amongst us Merkins; the Merkin Way; all-Merkin.

Marek, czlowieku...
zajrzyj juz do tego slownika, nie osmieszaj sie...

OK, podpowiem ci:
Merriam Webster podaje:
merkin: a false hair for the female pubenda

"She was wearing a blond wig and a matching merkin."
Magdalena

| | | your anal passages,
| n.c.
| No comprendo?
| I mean anal in the Freudian sense and passeages in the literary sense.

| I have to really spell things out for you, don't I.

| D.
Think so you have to spell out your anal posts to all of us .

It characterises all your writing.

Get this into your head:

You are just one little person saying his own opinion, which may or may not
be the same as anyone else's opinion.

Just you, one person, understand?

Try and get comfortable with that, it'll do you good.

David.

Just you, one person, understand?
no comprehendo

Try and get comfortable with that, it'll do you good.

a o krawatach juz zapomniales ?
czekam na odpowiedz z HK, moze zamowie tuzin tych
self-colour ties i sprawdze co w nich siedzi.

Wczoraj mialem rozmowe z technologiem od farbowania.

Barwa swoista, kolor ma uzasadnienie, poniewaz kilkaset lat temu
uzywano do barwienia tkanin, welny, barwnikow pochodzenia naturalnego,
roslinnego, mineralnego i
self-colour oznaczalo takiej barwy jak ten barwnik.

Czyli nazwa koloru byla stowarzyszona z nazwa rosliny, mineralu.

Poniewaz wychowalem sie w srodowisku w ktorym yngielski byl native jezyk
, stad mam to wyczucie i nawet nie przegladajac tych 100 slownikow,
jestem pewny znaczenia, bo go slysze w duszy, a nie na papierze.

Niemniej szanuje kazda odmienna opinie,
ktora nie zawiera, anal, shit,

Jacek

| Just you, one person, understand?
no comprehendo
work on it.

| Try and get comfortable with that, it'll do you good.
terapeuta  czy co ?

a o krawatach juz zapomniales ?
czekam na odpowiedz z HK, moze zamowie tuzin tych
self-colour ties i sprawdze co w nich siedzi.

Wczoraj mialem rozmowe z technologiem od farbowania.

Barwa swoista, kolor ma uzasadnienie, poniewaz kilkaset lat temu
uzywano do barwienia tkanin, welny, barwnikow pochodzenia naturalnego,
roslinnego, mineralnego i
self-colour oznaczalo takiej barwy jak ten barwnik.

Czyli nazwa koloru byla stowarzyszona z nazwa rosliny, mineralu.

Poniewaz wychowalem sie w srodowisku w ktorym yngielski byl native jezyk
, stad mam to wyczucie i nawet nie przegladajac tych 100 slownikow,
jestem pewny znaczenia, bo go slysze w duszy, a nie na papierze.

Niemniej szanuje kazda odmienna opinie,
ktora nie zawiera, anal, shit,

Jacek

What about fucking, wanking and pissing

..
| What about fucking, wanking and pissing
...
???

| ..
| What about fucking, wanking and pissing
| ...
| ???

I'll take that as an admission of defeat, then.

        Zuzanka

I am sitting here and DYEING from the itchy MERKIN affixed to my ____.
- David, I believe you're the real EXPERT here?  Please fill in the
missing letters :)

Thank you, I love you all soooo much!

Dee

| ..
| What about fucking, wanking and pissing
| ...
| ???

I'll take that as an admission of defeat, then.
D.

I am sitting here and DYEING from the itchy MERKIN affixed to my ____.
- David, I believe you're the real EXPERT here?  Please fill in the
missing letters :)

Thank you, I love you all soooo much!

Dee

| ..
| What about fucking, wanking and pissing
| ...
| ???

I'll take that as an admission of defeat, then.
D.

| Self- colour t-shirts to spotkalem. Kupuje sie dodatkowo zestaw farbek.
| Maluje wzor na takiej matrycy, potem naklada, prasuje i mamy wzor na
| t-shircie , self-colour t-shirt.
| Ale jeszcze nie art-t-shirt.

| Same with ties. But why don't you guys ask Monika for more info?

That's right. Come on, Monika, let's have a bit more info. Prosze.
D.

Tsk tsk tsk, such language...

I am sitting here and DYEING from the itchy MERKIN affixed to my ____.
- David, I believe you're the real EXPERT here?  Please fill in the
missing letters :)

Quim and muff are nice ones as well, but nothing beats the Russian 'Manda',
which always comes to mind when meeting girls called Amanda.

Regards
D.

Thank you, I love you all soooo much!

Dee

| ..
| What about fucking, wanking and pissing
| ...
| ???

| I'll take that as an admission of defeat, then.
| D.

| ..
| What about fucking, wanking and pissing
| ...
| ???

I'll take that as an admission of defeat, then.

Zuzanka

Yes, he caught me out that time.  When I get back from England in two weeks
I'll chase him round his beloved banking newsgroup so fast it'll make his
head spin.

David. Vindictive, moi?

| Self- colour t-shirts to spotkalem. Kupuje sie dodatkowo zestaw farbek.
| Maluje wzor na takiej matrycy, potem naklada, prasuje i mamy wzor na
| t-shircie , self-colour t-shirt.
| Ale jeszcze nie art-t-shirt.

| Same with ties. But why don't you guys ask Monika for more info?

| That's right. Come on, Monika, let's have a bit more info. Prosze.
| D.

SURE!
Wyglada to tak: zdanie wyjete jest z ksiazki i opisuje mezczyzne, u ktorego
studenci wynajmuja pokoje. Oto cale zdanie:
He was too kind and cheerful, and not badly dressed enough (he was wearing
a
collar and a self-colour tie even though his trouses were that very dark
grey flannel kind), and not really old enough either, to be the kind of man
to take in lodgers.

David

Tsk tsk tsk, such language...

I am sitting here and DYEING from the itchy MERKIN affixed to my ____.
- David, I believe you're the real EXPERT here?  Please fill in the
missing letters :)

Thank you, I love you all soooo much!

Dee

D.

| ..
| What about fucking, wanking and pissing
| ...
| ???

| I'll take that as an admission of defeat, then.
| D.

| Wyglada to tak: zdanie wyjete jest z ksiazki i opisuje mezczyzne, u
ktorego
| studenci wynajmuja pokoje. Oto cale zdanie:
| He was too kind and cheerful, and not badly dressed enough (he was wearing
a
| collar and a self-colour tie even though his trouses were that very dark
| grey flannel kind), and not really old enough either, to be the kind of
man
| to take in lodgers.
Thanks
It's not clear to me why 'even though' should be used as if the tie were
somehow in opposition to the trousers. I think the correct translation
would
be 'w jednym kolorze'. How did you decide in the end?

And the tie...
:-) How did it go? For a want of a tie a kingdom was lost? :-)
IMHO it is 'jednokolorowy' in here, which rather tends to match a collared
shirt than flannel trousers, as ties with a pattern are less
formal than the self-colored ;-) ones.

Pozdrawiam,
Marta Starczewska

| Disclaimer: Moje opinie sa _moimi_ opiniami.

Witam!

| Wyglada to tak: zdanie wyjete jest z ksiazki i opisuje mezczyzne, u
ktorego
| studenci wynajmuja pokoje. Oto cale zdanie:
| He was too kind and cheerful, and not badly dressed enough (he was
wearing
| a
| collar and a self-colour tie even though his trouses were that very dark
| grey flannel kind), and not really old enough either, to be the kind of
man
| to take in lodgers.
| Thanks
| It's not clear to me why 'even though' should be used as if the tie were
| somehow in opposition to the trousers. I think the correct translation
would
| be 'w jednym kolorze'. How did you decide in the end?

Isn't it so that flannel trousers aren't so formal as a collared shirt with
a tie? If so, the 'even though' might be justified.

And the tie...
:-) How did it go? For a want of a tie a kingdom was lost? :-)
IMHO it is 'jednokolorowy' in here, which rather tends to match a collared
shirt than flannel trousers, as ties with a pattern are less
formal than the self-colored ;-) ones.

Pozdrawiam,
Marta Starczewska

| Disclaimer: Moje opinie sa _moimi_ opiniami.

IMHO it is 'jednokolorowy' in here, which rather tends to match a collared
shirt than flannel trousers, as ties with a pattern are less
formal than the self-colored ;-) ones.

Jest krawat o kolorze swoistym, tzn. kolorze wynikajacym z uzytego
barwnika roslinnego czy innego ( w wieku 16-tym)
jezeli uzgodnimi nomenklature w sredniowieczu to latwiej bedzie sie nam
poruszac w czasie obecnym